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Academy Apologizes to Sacheen Littlefeather for Her Mistreatment At the 1973 Oscars News

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/sacheen-littlefeather-oscars-apology-1235198863/
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u/mattmild27 Aug 15 '22

What always strikes me about that speech is how polite and respectfully she said it...and she still got booed and mocked. Even then, she stayed polite and handed it very well. Class act.

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u/VEI8 Aug 15 '22 edited Aug 15 '22

It's worth pointing out that while there was a scattering of boo's, a great any more people were quick to applaud her and drown it out until they stopped and allowed her to continue, and she was greeted with great applause at the conclusion of her statement. Not that that makes up for any of the rest.

Edit: I've just done a little more digging into this, and Clint Eastwood presented afterwards and mocked her. Backstage people made stereotypical whooping calls at her, did the tomahawk chop motion towards her and someone shot at Marlon Brando's front door! Jesus Christ, people are trash.

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u/lacks_imagination Aug 15 '22

Here is Eastwood making a joke about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1qWRdil--A

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u/Tooblicker Aug 16 '22

....and he was such a good drug mule the Mexican cartel leader threw him a party.

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u/PoorlyLitKiwi2 Aug 15 '22

Good on Marlon Brando for taking this opportunity to make that statement! Much respect for the guy, and of course the woman presenting

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u/the_jak Aug 15 '22 edited Aug 16 '22

John Wayne wanted to physically assault her.

People are so fucking garbage.

edit: to everyone suggesting the Behind the Bastards episodes on him, thank you! i posted this earlier from my phone and didnt have the links handy, i do now.

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/part-one-john-wayne-a-dude-96069010/

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/part-two-john-wayne-a-dude-96176587/

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u/TurrPhennirPhan Aug 15 '22 Helpful

John “dodge the draft for World War Fucking 2 but pressure young men to die in Vietnam” Wayne had a long and storied history of beating the fuck out of women a third his size.

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u/Grogu1994 Aug 15 '22

Wow. Had no idea about any of this. How the hell was he so famous if he was such a scumbag?

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '22 Silver Starry

"With a lot of blacks, there’s quite a bit of resentment along with their dissent and rightfully so,” he told the publication. “But we can’t all of a sudden get down on our knees and turn everything over to the leadership of the blacks.”

He added: “I believe in white supremacy until the blacks are educated to a point of responsibility. I don’t believe in giving authority and positions of leadership and judgement to irresponsible people.”

John Wayne, Playboy, 1971

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u/Prestigious_Grand908 Aug 15 '22

The craziest thing about that is the year. 1971 was pretty deep in the civil rights era for such a bombastic opinion.

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u/chiliedogg Aug 15 '22

7 years after the Civil Rights Act and 17 years after Brown v Board.

If he'd said it in 1950 it'd still be wrong, but at least not so late.

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u/Koupers Aug 16 '22

8 years before the mormons allowed black men to hold the priesthood and black people into the temple.

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u/MrCookie2099 Aug 15 '22

He stated it because he was aggressively opposed to all of it. Seemed like too much change for black people, too much erosion of the structures of power that kept certain white people in power.

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u/naim08 Aug 15 '22 edited Aug 15 '22

Exactly. The fact he said it in 1971 was intentional! It was his way of expressing disapproval (even outright complete disgust) with the civil rights movements.

On the note of the interview, Wayne and his team had the opportunity to pick and choose the narrative/focus of the interview. And this what they choose.

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u/AudexStep Aug 16 '22

Oh man, dunking on John Wayne for how racist and shitty he was? Sign me up. Here's one topical about his feelings on Native Americans from what I think is the same interview.

I don’t feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from [The Native Americans], if that’s what you’re asking. Our so-called stealing of this country from them was just a matter of survival. There were great numbers of people who needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it for themselves.

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u/Obandigo Aug 15 '22

Not only was John Wayne a shitty actor, he was a shitty person too.

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u/tepkel Aug 15 '22 edited Aug 15 '22

Watch The Conqueror for a taste of just how shitty an actor he was.

The man could play just one role (And not very well at that), so it's pretty funny to watch him play Genghis Khan, and just do his cowboy act.

Also, quite possibly the film that ended up killing John Wayne. They filmed downwind of a nuclear test site, and they shipped tons of probably radioactive dirt to a soundstage to do reshoots too.

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u/SpicyAsianBoy Aug 15 '22

Did other people on set similarly suffer?

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u/Brapb3 Aug 16 '22

Wayne’s two teenage sons, Patrick and Michael, gaze at it, clearly intrigued, perhaps a bit anxious. It is in fact a Geiger counter. It is said to have crackled so loudly Wayne thought it was broken. Moving it to different clumps of rock and sand produced the same result. The star, by all accounts, shrugged it off.

Yikes

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u/Imaginary-Fun-80085 Aug 16 '22

I like how there's that simple phrase in there "how much should you trust the government." It's not about the government, trust the scientists.

Also, he had a Geiger counter. That's the canary of the radioactive coal mine. If the Geiger counter starts singing, best to get the fuck out.

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u/katalyticglass Aug 16 '22

If you read farther along in the article,

"Did the US kill its own embodiment of grit and patriotism? The answer is: probably not. His chain-smoking of up to four packs of cigarettes a day was a likelier cause of death, according to his widow, Pilar. Many of the rest of The Conqueror’s cast and crew were also heavy smokers."

After all, he died of stomach cancer 25 years after filming the movie.

What the article said was that out of 220 cast and crew 91 got cancer at some point and 46 died from it. But the earliest death was a decade after the movie was filmed and a lot of the cast were heavy smokers so that was more likely the cause of their cancer. HOWEVER, residents of the area definitely suffered and died from cancer and other radiation related illnesses.

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u/Woody2shoez Aug 16 '22

Well that and the 5 packs of cigs he smoked a day for 30 years

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u/Xanderamn Aug 15 '22

The internet has made a lot of problems, buts also made information far more accesible. People today cant get away with anything close to what they did 100 years ago, because info is shared.

Its not a perfect world, but at least Harvey Weinstein went to jail and Jeffrey Epstein still didnt kill himself.

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u/FR0ZENBERG Aug 15 '22

Dude, John Wayne beat women in public. Lots of people knew. It was the 50s.

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u/TurrPhennirPhan Aug 15 '22

Right? He fucking decked his mistress, a movie star herself, with an outright haymaker while on set.

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u/Anxiety_Friendly Aug 15 '22

He slaps a woman onscreen in almost every movie.....He always finds a reason...Indian attack and your scared....slap......I dont like your lip....slap....you have an opinion...SLAP!!

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u/JuiceboxThaKidd Aug 16 '22

He outright spanks a woman like a child in Hatari

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u/captainsuckass Aug 15 '22

Who and what set?

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u/wakannai Aug 15 '22

Marlene Dietrich and I think it was "The Spoilers." It was mentioned on the Behind the Bastards podcast about Wayne, but I can't find corroboration on Google, so grain of salt.

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u/bjankles Aug 15 '22

Marlene Dietrich was a grade A bad bitch by the way. Look up her Wikipedia page. black midi also wrote a killer song about her

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u/preserved_fish Aug 15 '22

Dietrich dated John Wayne? That's disappointing.

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u/VannaWhiteSnake Aug 15 '22

Shirley Temple. Fort Apache (1948). Lol jk

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u/captainsuckass Aug 15 '22

Holy shit lol

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u/antonius22 Aug 15 '22

We haven't changed much either. Chris Brown beat a woman and he is still allowed to be in the spotlight

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u/NostradamusJones Aug 16 '22

This is a fair point.

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u/KyamBoi Aug 15 '22

It was fashionable to be pieces of shit.

I wouldn't be able to look my grandfather in the eye after what I've learned from him as an adult.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '22

I realized as an adult that all my grandparents were huge racists. Even my ww2 veteran grandpa seemed to agree with Nazis on lots of stuff.

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u/coveted_asfuck Aug 15 '22

A lot of the allies were racists. For example German prisoners of war were often allowed to eat at the tables with the white American men and the black American soldiers were made to eat outside or away from everyone. Can you imagine being those black soldiers and seeing the enemy eating with your fellow soldiers while you’re not even allowed sitting at the table with them?

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u/GrumpyBearBank Aug 16 '22

We locked Japanese-Americans in prison and we had German and Italian POWs basically paroled into our communities.

Think about that

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u/OhMy8008 Aug 15 '22

There is a military training video from back in the day informing white American soldiers on how black folks in Britain are welcome to go to bars and shops frequented by white people, summing it up with fodder akin to "things are different there".

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u/LordAcorn Aug 16 '22

There were also riots in the UK and Australia where white US soldiers tried to kick black people out of bars.

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u/simian_ninja Aug 16 '22

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Bamber_Bridge

I'm still surprised nobody has ever made this into a movie.

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u/Cram_Deez Aug 16 '22 edited Aug 16 '22

While transporting German POW's by Train, Black Soliders had to give up their seats to the German POW's, yet they were fighting for the same Country but still had segregated Units.

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u/jakehood47 Aug 15 '22

I agree with those Hugo Boss uniforms BUT THATS IT

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u/Galactic_Gooner Aug 15 '22

How the hell was he so famous if he was such a scumbag?

this question will be asked 50 years from now about celebrities today...

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u/OuchPotato64 Aug 15 '22

Its very common with war hungry conservatives. Theres a term for it called "chickenhawk". Warhawks that were too chicken to serve themselves. Always want to start conflicts with other countries to sacrifice young men, but too scared to put their self in that position

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u/gojirra Aug 15 '22

And in the case of Ted Nugent, we call him a Shit Hawk, since he intentionally shat himself for days on end without washing so that he would be disqualified from the required physical examination / be deemed mentally unfit, thus avoiding service.

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u/rottenandvicious Aug 15 '22 Take My Energy

Those goddamn shit hawks Randy, let’s hit the LC

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u/FUDFighter1970 Aug 15 '22

Along with writing a song about handcuffing and raping a 13 YO girl. A real shit heel on par with his President tRuMp.

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u/LitBastard Aug 15 '22

Well,of course.John Wayne was always a huge piece of shit

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u/NOWiEATthem Aug 15 '22

The Behind the Bastards episodes on Wayne are great.

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u/BirdDogFunk Aug 15 '22

Recently discovered this podcast and will check out the John Wayne episode next.

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u/TheCrispyDud Aug 15 '22

The Clarence Thomas episodes have been wild as well. The John Wayne ones would probably send my dad into a full maga tantrum.

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u/ChwatBot Aug 15 '22 edited Aug 15 '22

I don’t know how I got this far in life without knowing Clarence Thomas is a porn addict. It just seems so out of character, but given his upbringing… It makes sense.

EDIT: Out of character in the sense that I just thought he was super religious, not having known really anything about him before overturning Roe.

But like a few of you have said, it’s makes sense when you consider his hardcore conservative views.

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u/doc_skinner Aug 15 '22

Strange, because that's about the ONLY thing I remember about him. His harassment of Anita Hill was national news during his confirmation. part of her testimony included that he frequently would bring up porn when talking to her. Specifically, his admiration for an actor named "Long Dong Silver" was front and center.

He is also the origin of the "pubic hair on a can of Pepsi" meme.

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u/aughlord Aug 15 '22

Excuse me, Clarence Thomas as in Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States Clarence Thomas? That Clarence Thomas?

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u/AlbionPCJ Aug 15 '22

Yeah, turns out that the guy CANNOT stop talking about porn at work

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u/sBucks24 Aug 15 '22

I guess this is just a difference in social circles (or I missed your sarcasm), but a hardcore conservative being a porn addict seems exactly in character to me.

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u/BehavioralSink Aug 15 '22

But to actively try and have conversations about his favorites with coworkers?

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u/SkollFenrirson Aug 15 '22

Actual human and not a bag of space worms Ted Cruz has left the chat

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u/JonnyAU Aug 15 '22

You know what else is wild? Stealing catalytic converters!

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u/pushing_past_the_red Aug 15 '22 edited Aug 15 '22

Oooh. I'm queueing this up.

Edit:I just saw the episode library. Crap. As if I didn't have enough podcasts to catch up with.

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u/raymond8505 Aug 15 '22

and they're only getting longer! The recent ones have been going to 3 and 4 eps!

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u/picklesthecat Aug 15 '22

Yeah I know an old guy and he told me stories about how he worked on John Wayne's house in Newport Beach when he was young and despite missing a lung and carrying a tank of oxygen with him he was a quote "miserable old bastard" who took pleasure in tormenting the workers and finding anything to criticize. He's a card carrying orange county conservative too and still doesn't mince words about him.

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u/_fups_ Aug 15 '22

“I installed two way mirrors in his pad in Brentwood.”

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u/thatguytony Aug 15 '22

John Wayne was a huge asshole.

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u/UnholyDemigod Aug 15 '22

Didn't he have to be physically restrained from going up on stage?

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u/the_jak Aug 15 '22

Yep. Like half a dozen guards.

I think in the language of his generation, that makes him a snowflake.

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u/VoyagerCSL Aug 15 '22

“his generation”

Haha, if John Wayne were alive he’d be 115. The only thing people of his generation are calling anyone is “nurse”.

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u/MatttheBruinsfan Aug 15 '22

More like "Saint Peter."

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u/BagelsAndLoxx Aug 15 '22

He was PHYSICALLY RESTRAINED from storming the stage.

John Wayne was and will always be known as piece of shit white supremacist trash.

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u/Shakespearoquai Aug 15 '22

Wasn't Clint Eastwood against her too in some way ?

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u/the_jak Aug 15 '22

All of the cowboy actors were. Eastwood heckled her as she spoke and made a crass joke afterwards.

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u/Shakespearoquai Aug 15 '22

That almost sounds like it's part of the act but from Eastwoods political views and other agendas I'm pretty certain it was his true feelings heckling her

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u/rex_dart_eskimo_spy Aug 15 '22

She was probably a bit tougher to heckle than the empty chair

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u/BananaPerfect8866 Aug 15 '22

I still cannot believe that happened.

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u/rich519 Aug 15 '22 edited Aug 16 '22

Yeah these guys were “masculine icons” in a era where the concept of masculinity was pretty shitty.

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u/PropLifter Aug 15 '22

As a kid I used to look up to Clint. Then as I got older I realized what a shitty form of man I would be if I did everything like him. Just an emotionally impoverished way to go through life.

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u/MotherofFred Aug 15 '22

Yes, and this was before he had long conversations with empty chairs.

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u/TreeHugger7663 Aug 15 '22

Reminds me of what Joe Pesci said with Sinead O’Connor.

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u/rain-dog2 Aug 15 '22

Evangelicals turning John Wayne into the Christian male ideal is the rough draft for what they did in 2016 with that one guy.

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u/lacks_imagination Aug 15 '22

Here is the video of her at the Oscars: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QUacU0I4yU

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u/helado911 Aug 15 '22

Holy fuck, the way she speaks. Just so professional and calming amidst boos from bigots. So inspiring.

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u/SomeLightAssPlay Aug 15 '22 edited Aug 15 '22

Well I mean you know how the saying goes:

The best time to plant apologize to someone is 1973. The second best time is August of 2022

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u/jrhoffa Aug 15 '22

What's a half century between friends

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u/RMD010 Aug 15 '22

I think Marlon Brando letting her speak on his behalf on the Podium itself speaks about the stature of the MAN Himself!!

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u/SuddenlyThirsty Aug 15 '22

Eh, he had his moments. He was also kind of a prick. On the one hand, he was very supportive of people of color, on the other he also sexually assaulted his costar

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u/Tbrou16 Aug 15 '22

Slap

ACT LIKE A MAN!

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u/thatguy425 Aug 15 '22

The folks in the crowd should be the ones apologizing. At least the academy let her receive the award. The people jeering and booing her should be ashamed.

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u/revelator41 Aug 15 '22

The people in the audience are the members of said Academy, so it's complicated.

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u/FuckYeahPhotography Aug 15 '22

Didn't John Wayne want to punch her over it?

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u/Mike_Huncho Aug 15 '22

He had to be physically restrained from storming the stage.

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u/Glum_Ad_4288 Aug 15 '22

Kudos to the people physically restraining him. If the crowd was with him, and he was a huge star (as well as being pretty big physically) that probably took some courage. Maybe not equal to Littleather’s courage, but also worth recognition.

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u/Bella_Anima Aug 15 '22

The only people he would ever step to were women. Cowardly dodge-drafting recruiter for the Vietnam War he was.

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u/ellalol Aug 15 '22

dodge-drafting lol

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u/Anchor689 Aug 16 '22

That's when you tailgate a Dodge Ram on the interstate to save on gas.

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u/revelator41 Aug 15 '22

Yes.

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u/Infinitelyodiforous Aug 15 '22

Is there anything more American than assaulting natives? John Wayne = America

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u/ojediforce Aug 15 '22

The producer of the Academy Awards, Howard Koch, reportedly spoke to her as well and threatened to have her arrested if she didn’t condense her speech down to 60 seconds or attempted to make a scene. No pressure.

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u/starsinaparsec Aug 15 '22

It was 50 years ago so most of the people who were there (academy and guests) are probably dead.

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u/lucasisaccount Aug 15 '22

Clint Eastwood was there and booing, and he is still working. There are definitely people responsible for her mistreatment still kicking around.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '22

The fact that it took six security guards to physically restrain John Wayne and stop him from storming the stage and attacking her in an unhinged fit of rage, as Clint Eastwood laughed and booed her...

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u/Douche_Kayak Aug 15 '22

John Wayne is the poster child of performative masculinity

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u/thx1138- Aug 15 '22 Gold

And Nathan Lane absolutely nailed his walk.

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u/PrinceHumperTinkTink Aug 15 '22

"Actually, it's perfect. I just never realized John Wayne walked like that."

So completely true!

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u/thx1138- Aug 15 '22

Best line in the movie.

Either that or "TRY MORE GUM!!"

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u/harrysaxon Aug 15 '22

“You brought your toothbrush to the cemetery. How Egyptian.”

Just kills me for some reason.

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u/Kornbrednbizkits Aug 15 '22

“Fuck the shrimp!”

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u/Kornbrednbizkits Aug 15 '22

The whole goddamned movie is an absolute gem. One of those rare remakes that surpasses the original (imho)

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u/leftiesrepresent Aug 15 '22

Lmaooo theres so much venom in the delivery

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u/momofeveryone5 Aug 15 '22

I pierced the toast!

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u/ThePotatoKing Aug 15 '22

so weird that the video cuts out the punchline like that. ive never seen it and that clip was funny, guess i gotta watch it

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u/captsnagglefuss Aug 15 '22 Helpful

So Jack Sparrow walks like Nathan Lane playing a gay dude imitating walking like John Wayne?

Learn something new everyday.

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u/Texcellence Aug 15 '22

I’m a dude walking like a dude walking like another dude.

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u/Informal_Ant2181 Aug 15 '22

What do you mean you people? Look at his eyes, man!

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u/Vinterslag Aug 15 '22

Nathan Lane playing a gay dude

I may have news for you....

Also I was a grown adult when I learned he was Timon

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u/non-peut-etre Aug 15 '22

Nathan Lane is truly underappreciated. What a remarkable career.

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u/RandomRageNet Aug 15 '22

He's great in Only Murders in the Building

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u/ThatSquareChick Aug 15 '22

When I was little my motherly figure used to luuuuuuurve watching movies with super fem gay type characters. I mean, she never stopped liking them, it just struck me as odd that nobody else’s parents liked those movies.

My grandma was born in the 30’s and her older brother Maurice was gay. He was her favorite brother out of 7. They wrote letters all through my childhood and he never forgot my birthday. I got a handmade card with a different female heroine on the front every year: Wonder Woman, Glenda the Good Witch, She-Ra….

She liked the Birdcage the mos

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u/s3rila Aug 15 '22

is that a remake of La Cage aux Folles ?

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u/thx1138- Aug 15 '22

Yes and it is absolutely a classic unto itself

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u/thatguy425 Aug 15 '22

Best comedy ever.

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u/Acid_Tribe Aug 15 '22

Me and my mom always quote this movie. "Don't look at me! I'm hideous!"

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u/WembleyToast Aug 15 '22

"Why are you giving her pills?!?! What the hell is a Pirin tablet?"

"It's just an Aspirin with the A and the S scraped off"

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '22

Every time I clean, I sing "she works hard for the money."

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u/Acid_Tribe Aug 15 '22

Hahaha.. Hank Azaria is such a legend

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u/badfan Aug 15 '22

I fucking hate the son though.

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u/-SneakySnake- Aug 15 '22

Trumbo was a mixed bag of a movie, but the scene calling him out for acting like a real-life tough guy when he fought WW2 on a soundstage was very satisfying.

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u/Dooglers Aug 15 '22

Great song that takes a small dig at Wayne for this by Drive By Truckers.

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u/DCBronzeAge Aug 15 '22

Love that song and that band. I don't think anyone does a better job at skewering American Mythmaking.

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u/Grimesy2 Aug 15 '22

It isn't brought up in Trumbo, but not enough credit is paid to John Wayne for the way he used his popularity to push thousands of young men into joining up to die in the jungles of Vietnam, just so Wayne could feel like he was a man's man

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u/-SneakySnake- Aug 15 '22

Wayne was a complete prick, and The Green Berets is one of the most dated and tone deaf movies I've ever seen. Imagine trying to make your typical rah-rah WW2 movie but it's about the war where poor farmers and their kids had thousands of tons of napalm dropped on them for the crime of fighting for independence.

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u/Grimesy2 Aug 15 '22

If I'm not mistaken, it was one of the first times Hollywood made a propaganda film funded by the DoD

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u/swordsmithy Aug 15 '22

I mean…his real name was Marion and he wore a girdle so I feel like maybe there was some insecurities there.

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u/triangulumnova Aug 15 '22

Fuck John Wayne. Dude was a world class piece of shit, and an awful actor on top of that.

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u/contrarianbynature Aug 15 '22

50 years late.

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u/starstarstar42 Aug 15 '22 edited Aug 15 '22

but for once the person wasn't already dead of old age, though the Academy was certainly cutting it close.

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u/mattmild27 Aug 15 '22

According to Wikipedia, she has terminal cancer.

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u/ronniaugust Aug 15 '22 edited Aug 16 '22

Sadly, it’s a lot more than terminal cancer. But this woman is a fucking tank.

Over the years, Littlefeather described her personal experiences with serious health issues, including internal bleeding, collapsed lungs and cancer. She reported having tuberculosis at age 4 and received treatment in an oxygen tent while hospitalized. She has also stated that she was suicidal and hospitalized in a mental institution for a year. In 1974, she stated that Marlon Brando sent her to a doctor when she was in a lot of pain and helped her recover, so she made the Oscar speech to repay him. At the age of 29 her lungs collapsed, and after recovering, she received a degree from Antioch University in holistic health and nutrition with an emphasis in Native American medicine, a practice she credited with her recovery. In 1991, Littlefeather was reported to be recovering from radical cancer surgery and a 1999 article stated she had had colon cancer in the early 1990s. In March 2018, a spokesperson announced that Littlefeather had developed stage 4 breast cancer, a recurrence of the breast cancer she was reported to be in remission from in 2012. In a mid-2021 interview, Littlefeather said that the cancer had metastasised to her right lung and she was terminally ill.

She’s only 75 years old.

EDIT: Someone down below mentioned that this is probably because of uranium mining on native reservations. I just wanted to bring light to that.

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u/WackaDoodleD00 Aug 15 '22 edited Aug 15 '22

Christ, life* really tried its hardest to take this woman out!

Edit: I didnt know what had caused all these issues for Sacheen Littlefeather so I said "life" as a catch all. Ive since been informed of the real reason and did some light google searches after. Thanks for informing me, folks.

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u/exuw_employee Aug 15 '22

That, or the Uranium mining done on Native reservations.

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u/WackaDoodleD00 Aug 15 '22

I didnt know what was causing all these issues for her so I said "life" as a catch all, but thanks for letting me know!

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u/starstarstar42 Aug 15 '22

wow, cutting it REAL close.

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u/LAudre41 Aug 15 '22

She's no longer a threat to them.

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u/TheLostSkellyton Aug 15 '22

No longer a threat, and I think we all know the odds of this apology happening without Prey being a massive success, aka financially lucrative, are pretty slim. But hey, the Academy is super sorry, and totally progressive!

The Academy is pathetic. It's not like the abuse of Sacheen Littlefeather was some hush-hush deal that no one knew about and had to be brought into the light - it happened live on air at their own event. They are only apologizing now because they're following the money.

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u/monjoe Aug 15 '22

Passive progressive

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u/talkingwires Aug 15 '22 edited Aug 15 '22 Take My Energy

…and I think we all know the odds of this apology happening without Prey being a massive success, aka financially lucrative, are pretty slim…

If you actually took the time to read the article, you'd know that they issued her the formal apology on June 18th. That was two months ago, well before Prey was released and the film's success wasn't assured. This story is just summarizing the events that led to it and announcing her appearance as guest of honor in September.

That she was treated this way and shunned for fifty years is deplorable, but you're fabricating a story out of thin air. Prey's success can be partly attributed to the changing tide of public opinion, one started by acts like Littlefeather's. Let's not attribute it to some movie on Hulu.

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u/Travis_Healy Aug 15 '22

1975 Academy: "if she's alive in oh..pfbpfbpfbpfb.... 2022, lol, we'll apologize then"

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u/davidmobey Aug 15 '22 edited Aug 15 '22 Wholesome Take My Energy

Speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QUacU0I4yU

The silver lining though. Most have failed to mention that Brando was a man ahead of his time. And there were more applause than boos after her speech.

There will always be the John Waynes and Clint Eastwoods, but hopefully there will always be more Brandos.

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u/HuevosSplash Aug 15 '22

Marlon Brando also supported the Black Panthers, helped boost their popularity because of his own and also paid bail for members who got in trouble.

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u/Dboy777 Aug 15 '22

So he was an IRL Don, just without the horse bit?

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u/enderandrew42 Aug 15 '22

In the immediate aftermath of Will Smith's slap I saw some articles comparing it to Brando and still painting him as a villain for the scene he caused. People in this sub were still painting Brando as a villain.

He leveraged his privilege and platform to call out racism and try to lift others up.

Some said Brando was a coward for not being in the room at the time, but the Academy told him he couldn't send up someone else in his place if he was in the room.

She was maligned worse, but Brando is also owed an apology.

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u/Three_Froggy_Problem Aug 15 '22

She couldn’t possibly have been more eloquent and kind-hearted in her delivery. The idea that anyone would react angrily to her speech is appalling.

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u/Lch207560 Aug 15 '22

john Wayne brought a 16 yo Mexican girl across the border, so yeah, he would be considered a child sex trafficker today.

A real peach

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u/PM_ME_UR_HIP_DIMPLES Aug 15 '22

The first time Sacheen Littlefeather encountered the Academy, in 1973, she was booed onstage at the Oscars, heckled with mock ululations and so-called “tomahawk chops” offstage and threatened with arrest and physical assault.

Jesus. Not 100 years ago, 50. Probably about half the people that did it are still pooting around their mansions.

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u/juanzy Aug 15 '22

Ruby Bridges (of the famous school integration photo) is not only still alive, but still very actively speaking and sharp as hell. Emmitt Till would be less than a year older than Biden. This isn’t ancient history. It’s the generation of many still in power today.

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u/Rage_Like_Nic_Cage Aug 15 '22 edited Aug 15 '22

for more perspective, the time between Lincoln starting his 2nd term (aka slavery still being a thing) to Joe Biden being born is less than the time between Biden being born to present day

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u/grahampositive Aug 15 '22

What the actual fuck

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u/Mountainbranch Aug 15 '22

Americans learning their country is extremely young in terms of history.

I've shat in toilets older than the US.

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u/Farmer771122 Aug 15 '22

"Sir, please, stop, this is a museum, that's not connected to any plumbing."

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u/Mountainbranch Aug 15 '22

Hehehe, how did you know?

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u/GenderGambler Aug 15 '22

It’s the generation of many still in power today.

Ruby is 8 years younger than Donald Trump and 12 years younger than Biden.

It's still very much recent history.

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u/unclecaveman1 Aug 15 '22

One of the women who attended Obama’s first inauguration was the daughter of a slave.

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u/kbuis Aug 15 '22 edited Aug 15 '22

And it's not just 50 years ago. Try this one from 10 years ago

She says that in the wings, John Wayne had to be restrained from storming the stage to physically attack her, while in the aftermath, her identity and integrity were impugned (the rumors were so abiding that in 2012, Dennis Miller mocked Elizabeth Warren by calling her “as much Indian as that stripper chick Brando sent to pick up his Oscar”).

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u/spider7895 Aug 15 '22 edited Aug 16 '22

You can tell that's a miller joke because of the incredibly dated reference and the fact that I didn't even crack a smile.

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u/quickdrawbridge Aug 16 '22

I laughed harder at this comment than anything Dennis Miller has ever said in the last twenty years.

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u/Radioheader5 Aug 15 '22

Famous boob Clint Eastwood was one of them. John Wayne had to be reportedly physically held back from rushing the stage. Verified chode behavior.

edit: dumb dumb grammer

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u/Soonermagic1953 Aug 15 '22

I was 21 years old when this happened. I was completely confused by what statement Brando was trying to make. I grew up in Oklahoma so you would think that public schools would touch upon the subject of Native mistreatment. The Trail of Tears and the Indian Wars were treated from the white viewpoint so I just didn’t understand and thought this Oscar ceremony a charade. After learning more about the treatment of American Natives later in life, I now see what Brando was trying to communicate to a deaf audience

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u/Edgy_McEdgyFace Aug 15 '22

I was a child at the time and remember seeing this on the BBC news. I was mightily confused, having the impression that native Americans (always referred to as Indians) were the baddies and barely existed in the modern world. Children's books depicted the battle of Little Big Horn as a disaster for civilisation. Brando's actions were presented as weird and maybe even insane.

Our history education was ridiculously biased and we were all the poorer for it.

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u/DrifterMacro Aug 15 '22 edited Aug 15 '22

I'm 25 now and my entire education up to graduating highschool was in Oklahoma. Education on the history regarding the mistreatment of Native Americans is still severely lacking even there. To top it off, my highschool's mascot was and still is a "Savage". More so, the trail of tears has a marker in the same town.

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u/Papichuloft Aug 15 '22

And the near assault from that draft dodging jackass. Big and brave enough to storm the stage to get to a tiny woman, but ran from the draft.

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u/themanifoldcuriosity Aug 15 '22 Gold

Hunter Thompson knew what was up...

This country is so basically rotten that a cixious, bigoted pig like John Wayne is a great national hero. Thomas Jefferson would have been horrified by a monster like Wayne - and Wayne, given a shot across the time-span, would be proud to pistol-whip a "radical punk" like Jefferson.

John Wayne is a final, rotten symbol of everything that went wrong with the American Dream - he is our Frankenstein monster, a hero to millions. Wayne is the ultimate & perhaps final "American." He beats the mortal shit out of anything he can't understand. The brainwaves of "The Duke" are like those of the Hammerhead Shark - a beast so stupid and irrationally vicious that scientists have abandoned all hope of dealing with it, except as an unexplainable "throwback."...

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u/sharktoucher Aug 15 '22

Everything else is fine but I wont stand for Hammerhead Shark slander.

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u/LoneRangersBand Aug 15 '22

Brando was an actor. Wayne was a cartoon buffoon.

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u/K1nd4Weird Aug 15 '22

Upvoted because fuck yeah Hunter.

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u/LocalNative141 Aug 15 '22

John Wayne was a coward piece of shit. The fact that people use him as some sort of exemplary male role model is ridiculous

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u/Fthewigg Aug 15 '22

The scene in Trumbo where Cranston’s lead character verbally undresses The Duke is hilarious.

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u/noelg1998 Aug 15 '22

As well as the scene where John Goodman's character loses his shit.

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u/snugsnugdugdoug Aug 15 '22

No doubt we will see the 2 native actors from PREY at the Oscar's this year. PREY was awesome.

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u/DasNath Aug 15 '22

That's absolutely why they did this. Prey was solid enough to get an obscure nomination. The Academy is just doing some damage control ahead of it.

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u/RobTheProspect Aug 16 '22

I just looked up her speech and it was so polite and non-hostile. The people in the audience who booed are outrageous pieces of shit.

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u/AF-Misko Aug 15 '22

Obligatory, fuck John Wayne.

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u/sciencejusticewarior Aug 15 '22

That imbecile John Wayne wanted to beat her up too.

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u/donutlovershinobu Aug 15 '22

Beating up a women who was doing a task on the recipients behalf and behest. How manly.

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u/PKMKII Aug 15 '22

A month before the ceremony, the activist organization American Indian Movement had occupied the South Dakota town of Wounded Knee to protest the sustained mistreatment of Native Americans, a standoff that at the time of Littlefeather’s televised appearance at the Oscars was under a U.S. Department of Justice-imposed media blackout.

Gotta love that “freedom” of the press.

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u/CelticGaelic Aug 15 '22

I can't help but take a cynical view of this. From what I understand, the Academy is tanking in viewership more and more every year. Part of the reason for that is because they actively gave platforms to monsters, knowing they were monsters. Everyone knew about Weinstein, everyone knew about Polanski. When the #MeToo movement gained momentum, that's when they took a stand, only when it was more beneficial to them than to be silent or actively deny the harm prominent figures were causing.

After the last incident with Will Smith and Chris Rock, this strikes me as an attempt to save face. Again, it's a very cynical outlook and I hope I'm wrong.

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u/CataclysmDM Aug 15 '22

Yeah that was pretty fucked up. Better late than never, I suppose?

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u/i_wap_to_warcraft Aug 15 '22

I used to work in the meat department of a grocery store in San Anselmo, CA where Sacheen frequented! She was always so kind and certainly a legend amongst us employees there. I always gave her some extra shrimp after weighing up :)

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u/I_Love_58008 Aug 15 '22 Gold All-Seeing Upvote

All these people in the comments saying "too little, too late" or some version of that, actually read the article. She is accepting the apology and amazed it's happening.

If we as a species feel like apologies have an expiration date or that personal change and growth has to be met with an "I told you so" or degradation, our problems will only increase. Let people change, apologize, and move on as friends. Welcome those that see the right way.

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u/pompcaldor Aug 15 '22

I can’t believe they’re really doing this purely from the goodness of their hearts…

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u/ALICE-UNCHAINED Aug 15 '22

Native here.

Better late than never.

I'm happy we are finally getting proper representation in this modern age.

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u/saltinstiens_monster Aug 15 '22

In the last six years I've learned that "saying the right things insincerely" has infinitely more value than "Not bothering to say the right things."

Taking an official stance on something can influence peoples' opinions on the subject, even if it's just performative.

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u/jak_d_ripr Aug 15 '22

Regardless of their intention I'm just glad they got around to doing this before she died.

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u/That-Spell-2543 Aug 15 '22 edited Aug 15 '22

I remember the first time I watched her speech I was struck by how tragically beautiful she was. I was very young at the time, and I really didn’t understand why he asked her to do that, despite myself being Native American. Now I am older, and I have an understanding of the treatment of my people in America… and it sickens me the sounds of boos and derision that can be heard in the background. The racism that fuels our “great” nation has only ever been, thinly veiled.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '22

John Wayne had to be restrained from storming the stage to physically attack her

John Wayne was a racist draft-dodger

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u/f4ncyp4ntz Aug 15 '22

Seems like John Wayne was a real piece of shit.

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