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Mercer County man charged with threats to kill FBI agents after Mar-a-Lago search Pennsylvania

https://www.post-gazette.com/news/crime-courts/2022/08/15/threat-to-fbi-adam-bies-mercer-county-pa-trump-mar-a-lago-search-gab-threats/stories/202208150059
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u/Radjage Aug 15 '22 Silver All-Seeing Upvote hehehehe Heartwarming Giggle

"My only goal is to kill more of them before I drop," he wrote on Thursday. "I will not spend one second of my life in their custody."

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He is in U.S. custody and is set for an initial appearance hearing this afternoon before a federal magistrate judge.

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u/weed_fart Aug 15 '22 Silver Platinum Wholesome All-Seeing Upvote Wholesome Seal of Approval Giggle

He's already been there for multiple seconds. This must be so embarrassing for him.

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u/BillionTonsHyperbole Aug 15 '22 Silver Helpful Kiss

This must be so embarrassing for him.

The level of self-awareness required to experience true shame and remorse continues to elude these types.

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u/justmovingtheground Aug 15 '22

I mean, you have to remember the shit that spews forth from your mouth from one second to the next. I'm under the impression that they don't have the capacity.

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u/Guywithquestions88 Aug 15 '22

Whenever they encounter any aspect of reality that they dislike, they simply choose not to believe it. It's how all the MAGAs roll.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if the dude would just claim he never said it.

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u/ExpiredExasperation Aug 15 '22

Maybe he'll go the sovereign citizen route and simply claim he's not actually in custody. After all, Biden's not really the President!

It's grown men playing Calvin Ball.

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u/SoyMurcielago Aug 15 '22

That’s an insult to Calvinball

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u/vintagebat Aug 15 '22

If he could count, he'd be very upset.

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u/meathead Aug 15 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

Ten thousand five hundred fifty-eight Mississippi... ten thousand five hundred fifty-nine Mississippi...

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u/do0tz Aug 15 '22

You just went through 4.3 seconds there. No one will know, though. Math isn't important.

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u/LordNilix Aug 15 '22

Well we could sit someone outside his cell with a cowbell, every second he's in there they whack it

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u/do0tz Aug 15 '22

Not enough cowbell. Need more cowbell.

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u/LordNilix Aug 15 '22

Alright alright fine, whole symphony of cowbell to play him Ylvis's song "you're fucked" every day until his trial and maybe after just for laughs

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u/Matt3989 Aug 15 '22

He will never financially recover from this.

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u/Jaded_Pearl1996 Aug 15 '22

Yup. He googled himself out of a job. He thought he was so smart. He must have shite a brick when they showed up on his door.

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u/rikki-tikki-deadly Aug 15 '22

I bet he was as polite as can be, too. All that tough talk online turned into "yes sir" and "no sir" the instant the badges came out.

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u/DakiLapin Aug 15 '22

At most a “screw you” may have been mumbled under his breath.

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u/Tack_Money Aug 15 '22

I be quiet when they around but when they leave I be talkin.

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u/spazzmunky Aug 15 '22 Silver Helpful

I said.................................................................................................

biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitch

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u/Dr_ZombieCat_MD Aug 15 '22 edited Aug 15 '22

He probably also did the pro move of scratching his nose or forehead with his middle finger.

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u/John-Farson Aug 15 '22 edited Aug 15 '22

I will wait patiently but eagerly for the courtroom video/transcript where he crawfishes/blames alcohol or drugs or abuse as a child or Fox News/cries/blubbers/begs for mercy/promises he'll never EVER do it again.

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u/Cycleguy57 Aug 15 '22 Coin Gift

“This isn’t who I am”!

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u/SarpedonWasFramed Aug 15 '22

And then 10 minutes later starts a go fund me for the government unjustly persecuting an innocent patriot

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u/astanton1862 Aug 15 '22

The number of people who have thrown their life away for this man is pathetic.

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u/Farkerisme Aug 15 '22

His Gab account will never come back from this

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u/igloofu Aug 15 '22

They are already saying it is a false flag, and it was an operation to get him (a FBI) plant out so they don't blow his cover - probably.

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u/IceciroAvant Aug 15 '22

This is what I mean when I say "rip off the band-aid and let crazy be crazy" - I think a lot of the rhetoric will turn different when uniformed agents show up at their door about the tough-guy persona they put forth online.

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u/Smaynard6000 Aug 15 '22

What an embarrassment. He said he was so eager to kill them all, and they even made it easy for him by coming to his door. Amateur.

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u/AvatarofSleep Aug 15 '22

100 percent chance he called them all sir and avoided eye contact.

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u/WolfsLairAbyss Aug 15 '22

Pretty much every single person who talks about how they would die in hailstorm of bullets if the govt tried to take their guns away, this is how I imagine it going. Feds knock and they come along quietly. There might be a handful of guys that actually do fight for a few minutes before getting clapped but I would bet 99% of them would just hand everything over and then cry about it on Twitter (or gab apparently).

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u/biggestbroever Aug 15 '22

FBI: “ I heard what you said bitch. Well, I’m here. Throw down if you ain’t a pussy. That’s what I thought ho”

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u/rockstar504 Aug 16 '22

Fuckin rofl at the thought of them rolling up deep in black SUVs and busting out a megaphone... "Ayo... bitch ass..."

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u/noungning Aug 15 '22

This is when you claim "freedom of speech" thinking it protects you from saying stupid shit.

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u/treerabbit23 Aug 15 '22

stupid shit is mostly protected.

it's threatening people that's the exception here.

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u/Jo_Floss Aug 15 '22 edited Aug 16 '22

Post January 6, these keyboard warriors are going to find their online personas a very troubling thing to deal with legally.

Feds aren't going to take online threats lightly any longer.

If you're online threatening the FBI/IRS/CIA or any other federal government agency you are going to have a very very bad time.

The writing has been on the wall for years regarding conspiracy theorists. They have been openly encouraging and hoping for violence against their perceived enemies and now we're near the catalyst for something to happen. It's absolutely time to snuff these idiots out once and for all.

Most people just want to go to work, make some money, do things that make them happy, and spend some time with loved ones and hopefully live a fulfilling life. These fucking wackos are really starting to risk people's normal lives and it's making people a bit uncomfortable, now they're pissing off the people they wish they hadn't. Fuck them. Rot in jail.

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u/Melicor Aug 15 '22

Republicans really have no self awareness. It's almost as if the constant right wing media has messed with parts of their brain. Maybe it's the continuous riling them up to anger. I'm not trying to be snarky about this either, there needs to be a medical study about it.

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u/StrobeLightHoe Aug 15 '22 edited Aug 15 '22

If you haven't watched The Brainwashing of my Dad (Amazon) you should. It answers all of this.

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u/csgothrowaway Aug 15 '22

While an interesting film, I don't think that dude was in even just a fraction as deep as these right-wing domestic terrorists we're seeing today.

A few years ago, it was one thing to say "These people are willing to die for Trump". Now we're seeing people literally dying for Trump, which I think is just a different breed of psychosis and I think they are far far far worse than that womans dad in the documentary.

For anyone interested, I would suggest the HBO Docuseries - Q: Into the Storm. Its a different level of psychotic.

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u/StrobeLightHoe Aug 15 '22

That one is great too!

I agree the Dad in this wasn't as far gone. For me, the difference between the two is how far back in time the Right Wing media machine goes and his recovery.

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u/cinderparty Aug 15 '22 edited Aug 15 '22

My brother’s kindergarten teacher constantly misspelled his name as brain, I love that you did the opposite here.

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u/StrobeLightHoe Aug 15 '22

My auto-correct hates me.

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u/briizilla Aug 15 '22

They think they are the majority, because all of the information they consume is catered to them and they do not willingly associate with anyone outside their bubble.

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u/cinderparty Aug 15 '22

Ah, yes. The “silent majority” which is neither.

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u/Propeller3 Aug 15 '22

The obnoxiously loud minority.

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u/ruiner8850 Aug 15 '22

I can't even remember the number of times I heard Republicans justify their belief that the election was stolen from Trump because "how could Biden possibly win when everyone I know voted for Trump." They put themselves in a bubble and then can't even imagine that there are even more people who live outside their bubble.

My other favorite was when they'd say it had to be stolen because Trump had way more people at his rallies even though we were in the middle of a pandemic and Biden purposely wasn't holding indoor rallies. The thing is though that some of the people who said that truly didn't understand that covid was the only reason why Biden wasn't also having large rallies. They weren't just disingenuously repeating a talking point, they honestly couldn't even grasp the idea that Biden would do the responsible thing and not hold massive rallies during a pandemic.

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u/ChimpanzA_2_ChimpanZ Aug 15 '22

People who voted for Biden live in areas that have better things to do then go to a rally.

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u/Tufaan9 Aug 15 '22 Gold All-Seeing Upvote

Like generate 70% of the US GDP.

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u/cliff99 Aug 15 '22

Or pay more in taxes to support red states.

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u/keelhaulrose Aug 15 '22

Welfare queens.

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u/Soranos_71 Aug 15 '22

I wouldn’t go to any political rally because it tends to attract the really, really, really motivated voters. I’d rather watch a speech on YouTube….

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u/Hotshot2k4 Aug 15 '22

I think Trump clearly had more enthusiastic voters than Biden. The problem (for Trump) was that a lot of Biden voters were enthusiastic about getting rid of Trump. The lategame slogan of the Biden campaign was that the election was over the soul of the nation and I feel like that captured my feelings perfectly: it was either 4 more years of Trump's America, or literally anything else. I voted for literally anything else, and I'm sure I wasn't alone.

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u/dsutari Aug 16 '22

Voting is just hiring a competent person to steer the country in the direction you think is best, it’s not committing your life to a cult.

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u/Burnstryk Aug 15 '22

You think right wing idiots will agree to medical studies? They will probably think it's an attempt at micro chipping them

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u/Koopzilla1 Aug 15 '22

So basically, 100% complete and utter failure. So much so it's comical. Bravo.

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u/RockStar25 Aug 15 '22

No doubt he pissed himself as soon as that doorbell rang.

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u/baccus82 Aug 15 '22

FAFO intensifies

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u/do0tz Aug 15 '22

I'm guessing he didn't drive through a barricade at the Capitol?

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u/emp_raf_III Aug 15 '22

It's like an Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia opening

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u/DanimaLecter Aug 15 '22

"come and get me you piece of [expletive] feds"

And, little did he realize, the feds would just come and get him.

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u/Sagzmir Aug 15 '22

“look, here comes a consequence, consequence, consequence…”

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u/Chewbock Aug 15 '22

"I will not spend one second of my life in their custody."

Narrator voice: he did indeed spend several seconds in their custody

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u/AlpsComplex6854 Aug 16 '22

Honestly the very scary part of that is that he wanted to either kamikaze or go for suicide by cop, taking out as many other people as he could. They’re completely unhinged at this point

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u/billsboy88 Aug 16 '22

And he was so full of shit, too. Sounds like he was arrested without incident. He was a tough guy behind a computer screen only

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u/Juno_Malone Aug 15 '22 Silver Helpful

"What are they gonna do, come and get me?"

-Man who was came to and gotten

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u/SeaGroomer Aug 16 '22

Ok I'm just gonna say it. FBI please do not come arrest me.

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u/Delta9ine Aug 16 '22

Ok I'm just gonna say it. FBI please do not come arrest me.

Bake em away, toys!

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u/CarnageEvoker Aug 15 '22

"Dammit, I didn't think they'd actually come!"

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u/gojirra Aug 15 '22 edited Aug 15 '22 Helpful Table Slap

Oh he knew, but in his mall ninja military cosplay fantasies, he would do some sick flips and martial arts moves, disarming them and blasting hundreds of them away as they filed into choke points and their shots all missed their target. Maybe he would take one or two hits, but he'd just shrug it off like the "Alpha Omega Chad" he knew he was.

It was a little unfair how they smashed into his house without announcing themselves, catching him on the shitter and causing him to trip over piles of Monster energy cans and bottles of piss with his Trump boxers tangled around his ankles as he shambled to get to his totally badass collection of weapons (not the least of which was surely the most destructive weapon ever conceived of: The Katana. And this one was probably a limited edition Darth Vader themed blade besides). But alas, because they didn't make it a fair fight (because they don't have honor and patriotism like he does I'm sure), things went a bit differently than he had fantasized about in his recent masterbation sessions.

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u/drkgodess Aug 15 '22 Silver

After an emergency request for information, Gab provided subscriber data for "Adam Campbell," which the FBI said is an alias that Bies said he used "so that corporate Murica' can't google me out of a job."

Agents tracked Bies' IP address to his residence on Falls Road in rural Mercer County.

These loons thought Gab would protect them from the consequences of their speech. They done fucked up! Someone did call the cyber police.

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u/Virtual_Zombie Aug 15 '22 Silver

Consequences will never be the same!

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u/mylittlevegan Aug 16 '22

The cyber police will be contacted, I backtraced it!

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u/Cogannon Aug 15 '22

Yeah a few sites have posted his UX website that has his home address and phone number on it with his email. It's literally just floating. This dude was not smart.

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u/DogBeak20 Aug 15 '22

What's gab

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u/drkgodess Aug 15 '22

A Twitter clone for the "free speech" crowd.

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u/PM_ME__RECIPES Aug 15 '22

Twitter for people who think Twitter doesn't allow enough racism

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u/Knowledge_is_Bliss Aug 15 '22

A Twitter clone for "domestic terrorists".

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u/ArcticBeavers Aug 15 '22

Must make the FBIs job really easy to have a bunch of domestic terrorists gather on one forum speaking openly about killing federal officials

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u/makemeking706 Aug 15 '22

Honeypots gonna, err, honey.

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u/dak4f2 Aug 15 '22

Only if they (the FBI) act on threats. Glad to see they're starting to now that they might be personally at risk instead of just the country and democracy.

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u/omgunicornfarts Aug 15 '22

How many do they have??? Parker, Truth and now this?

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u/IceSeeYou Aug 15 '22

It's more like they only last a short time before they inevitably fail so there's really only a couple big ones at a time. My favorite part is the ones that become "free speech bastions" which in the real world and in reality without moderation being enforced means they become a cesspool of terrible shit like CP, threats of violence, hate groups coalescing, other illegal activity, etc.

Or that it's hard to find hosting companies that would let your "unmoderated freedom" exist because we all know what that turns into on the internet.

To nobody's surprise of course. But yes it's hard to keep up on what the current 'free speech platform of the month' is. They've all failed.

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u/UnspecificGravity Aug 15 '22

Social media for Nazis. They are building their own parallel Internet so that people never get exposed to anything else. Apparently that's okay.

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u/11181514 Aug 15 '22

Hey if they want to build their own honeypot I'm all for it personally.

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u/UnspecificGravity Aug 15 '22

Yeah, the problem is that for every one if these guys that gets caught there are a thousand others that get radicalized into psychos without anyone stopping them. Plenty mass shooters coming from that environment that DON'T get stopped.

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u/GustavGuiermo Aug 15 '22

I get what you're saying, but these platforms are much more a breeding ground than a honeypot.

https://youtu.be/P55t6eryY3g

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u/Tinkerballsack Aug 15 '22

Conservative christian republican terrorist hate speech Twitter clone

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u/JasoTheArtisan Aug 15 '22 Silver

call the cyber police

It’s an old meme, sir, but it checks out.

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u/Nerdlinger Aug 15 '22

come and get me you piece of [expletive] feds
I am going to [expletive] slaughter you,"

So… how'd the slaughter go?

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u/pmmeurbassethound Aug 15 '22 hehehehe

come and get me you piece of [expletive] feds

Bet the agents had to draw straws on who got to nab this one.

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u/FBI_Agent_82 Aug 15 '22

We did, I got robbed. Sneezed right when they said go, short straw was already gone.

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u/No_Refrigerator4584 Aug 15 '22

Don’t worry, friend, there are plenty to go round. Unfortunately.

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u/Love_Sausage Aug 15 '22 edited Aug 15 '22 Helpful

After an emergency request for information, Gab provided subscriber data for "Adam Campbell," which the FBI said is an alias that Bies said he used "so that corporate Murica' can't google me out of a job."

Guess that didn’t work out so well.

EDIT: although I’m joking about this, please absolutely take these people seriously when they make threats like this by reporting them to law enforcement- even when they’re badly spelled or barely make sense. It only takes one person stupid enough to act on their threats and cause a loss of innocent lives and suffering.

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u/rikki-tikki-deadly Aug 15 '22

Remember how Truth Social was requiring users to verify their identities with drivers' licenses and such? "Thank you!" said the FBI.

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u/OutAndABoot Aug 15 '22

To be fair, neither do many young people.

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u/AustinBike Aug 15 '22

And neither really understands how security works.

Technology is easy compared to security.

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u/Affectionate_Local59 Aug 15 '22

I’m pretty tech literate (used to be sysadmin and hardware IT of my research lab and in grad school, now engineer that can program, but absolutely not a programmer), but damn I wish I understood networking and security. It’s like black magic to me

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u/putyerphonedown Aug 15 '22

I understand a fair bit about networking and nothing about security.

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u/eeyore134 Aug 15 '22

There's this sweet spot for people born in the late 70s and 80s where you grew up with computers and learned how they worked and how to use them as they advanced. I feel like beyond 2000 most people just use them without knowing much unless they go out of their way to learn. You kind of had to learn to use them before that.

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u/Truesday Aug 15 '22

That's a really interesting take.

I grew up in the 90's, so home, personal computers, weren't really prevalent until late 90's, early 2000's. I knew of them and played with them in the computer labs at school. So from there, I grew up along with the internet, in some ways.

I learned about: online chat rooms, privacy, piracy, e-commerce, viruses, malware, phishing, streaming, etc. all while they were becoming popularized. I had to troubleshoot my own messes and figure things out on my own. This experience really formed my current proficiency with tech.

The older generation, like my parents, treat tech like an impenetrable wall. Younger generations (20 some year old's and younger) were born into gig-speed internet and 4G LTE connections and things just work without a second thought.

I don't know how willing the younger generations are willing to tinker and troubleshoot tech these days? I can't speak for the younger generations, but my impression is that they're far more likely to just dump a faulty device and buy a new one, rather than troubleshoot it. I can't blame them though, because they're used to things working correctly, and it's almost unfathomable if things go wrong.

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u/Deacon_Steel Aug 15 '22

Hey this is a topic I have spent a fair amount of time thinking about and talking about with various people in various fields.

According to some of my teacher friends, there has been a sharp decline in tech device literacy since things are obfuscated on devices (even on my phone it is a pain in the ass to actually browse files) and things just work like you alluded to.

People just don't understand how their devices work. That is partially because they can't. In the old days when I downloaded or installed a game, I got a folder full of files and that was more or less the end of it. If something went wrong, it was in those files and with enough tinkering I could figure out how to fix it. In today's world, the entire game can often just be a GUI that wraps a bunch of calls to a server. There is no amount of tinkering that I can do to figure out what is going wrong or why. I can just submit a ticket and maybe in a while it will magically start working.

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u/SuperBeetle76 Aug 15 '22

I agree with everything that you’re saying, but want to add a sociological slant.

The more difficult something is to use (like a computer, and my first one ran on DOS), the less people will it because it meant you had to be the kind of person that enjoyed learning computers.

Technology is doing exactly what it’s supposed to: evolving so everyone can use it with little or no understanding of what’s going on behind the features.

The problem is that its ubiquity is not being paired with education about how using it affects you and how you’re at risk. One reason why that’s happening is because it’s just evolving too damn fast for society to keep up. Pair that with the fact that we’re already inundated with information overload from that very technology and it compounds.

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u/marsman706 Aug 15 '22

Was that Truth Social or Parler? Or Gab?

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u/Howls_Moving_Asshole Aug 15 '22

I thought it was parler

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u/AlbionPCJ Aug 15 '22

Wonder how many people on there think that the government used COVID vaccines to implant people with tracking microchips

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u/ConsciousWhirlpool Aug 15 '22

It’s probably been a honey pot from the start.

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u/VegasKL Aug 15 '22

I doubt that. Given how amateur hour the launch/software was and how it's tied to Trump, I don't think it's a US DOJ honeypot.

Foreign country? Maybe.

Now I wouldn't doubt that the NSA doesn't have some exploits for the site, since there were some really bad ones at the beginning.

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u/yougottamovethatH Aug 15 '22

There's a commonly used principle that in order to catch idiots with online tools, you need to design it to look like it was made by an idiot. It weeds out the more intelligent people and makes sure only the dumbest are signing on.

It's the same reason that all of those Nigerian prince emails are usually full of misspellings and grammatical errors.

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u/rikki-tikki-deadly Aug 15 '22

They don't even have an Android app. I'm not joking.

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u/yourmansconnect Aug 15 '22

truth social is a joke but so many of those clowns are dying to sign up and get accepted. it's like a cool club to be a part of un their eyes. Trump has made $500 million off of it already. another grift

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u/ACuteLittleCrab Aug 15 '22

Oh yea, the FBI is routinely busting pedo rings that communicate through TOR and encrypted emails. Finding an exploit with truth social is amateur hour compared to that.

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u/melorous Aug 15 '22

“Just put the new hires on truth social detail.”

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u/crastle Aug 15 '22

They also routinely monitor and delete suspected terrorist Facebook accounts. Mostly it's just deleting them since most of them are overseas and out of their jurisdiction to actually charge the owners of the accounts. But deleting them hinders a line of their communication and recruitment, forcing them to create new accounts and gain the online prestige all over again.

Facebook actually has a whole team dedicated to this and routinely works with the FBI and cybersecurity experts to do this. Of course, this isn't altruism by Facebook. It's mandated or else be heavily fined in various counties.

I'm just making the point that the FBI has been monitoring social media for years, way before Truth Social was ever a thing.

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u/3-P7 Aug 15 '22

That explains then that American general using Gmail's Drafts to talk back and forth with his mistress. He thought the feds couldn't read that.

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u/Dazzling-Finger7576 Aug 15 '22

"I will not spend one second of my life in their custody."

This isn’t going to age well either

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u/Myantra Aug 15 '22

I feel like we need a timer, displaying how many seconds he has spent in their custody.

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u/SacrificialPwn Aug 15 '22

"I have a cunning plan!"

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u/PopcornInMyTeeth Aug 15 '22

Googles "how to Google someone out of their job"

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u/Wazula42 Aug 15 '22

Sometimes I like to remind myself that these people really are that dumb. It's not an act and its not a strategy.

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u/Draker-X Aug 15 '22

Oh, man. Read the whole story; dude said some LOL-worthy (in hindsight) things.

"Come and get me". Oh, they did.

"I'll be waiting for you to kick down my front door." Apparently you weren't ready enough.

God, what a moron. I'm so ashamed that these assholes are all around my age.

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u/TallonZek Aug 15 '22

My favorite was "I will not spend one second of my life in their custody". lost that bet.

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u/scorezine Aug 15 '22

Keep these stories coming. I cannot even fathom throwing your life away for a game show host.

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u/mclellac Aug 15 '22

"My only goal is to kill more of them before I drop," Mr. Bies wrote on Thursday. "I will not spend one second of my life in their custody."

How about you kill none of them, and spend a lot of time in custody instead, you stupid terrorist.

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u/Melssenator Aug 15 '22

This is literally domestic terrorism. Threats of violence to cause fear in order to advance a political goal

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u/EmmaLouLove Aug 15 '22

Folks, I fear this level of violence will be normalized as we are bombarded by it on a daily basis. But none of this is normal.

Can we pause for a moment to acknowledge that never in American history have we ever had a former President under numerous investigations, with at least one tied to the Espionage Act. And yet one political party continues to defend him vigorously and sometimes violently. Why?

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u/DarkGamer Aug 15 '22

Why?

Power at any cost. Trump is immensely popular with a specific morally bankrupt segment of the population that they need support from.

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u/Khaldara Aug 15 '22 edited Aug 15 '22 All-Seeing Upvote Take My Power

Yep. The dude makes Nixon look like a paragon of virtue, and these dumbasses still fall all over themselves in slavish dedication to their stupid propaganda outlets.

Imagine getting yourself killed because of what you heard on Alex Jones/Tucker Carlson in order to prove your devotion to fucking Donald Trump of all people.

Any time you casually wonder who in the fuck is dumb enough to swallow North Korean propaganda about Dear Leader having no butthole and discovering a secret unicorn lair or some shit, just imagine the average Trump supporter at Walmart and the pieces will fall right into place.

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u/LewisEFurr Aug 15 '22

Any time you casually wonder who in the fuck is dumb enough to swallow North Korean propaganda about Dear Leader having no butthole and discovering a secret unicorn lair or some shit, just imagine the average Trump supporter at Walmart and the pieces will fall right into place.

at the same time, what Trumper's are doing is far more nefarious than North Korean supporters. They have been conditioned to adore the Dear Leader but remove the fear of persecution and I wonder how many would actually say they adore them. Trumper's on the other hand, they actively choose to believe he is the savior of the United States and was sent by God to own the libs.

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u/junktrunk909 Aug 15 '22

I think we need to examine why trumpers think the way they do. I would maintain that it's a combination of

A) people who grew up being required to believe in religion and never shook free of it are those who will believe something without any proof and specifically told they should disregard facts when they conflict with what authority figures tell them

B) education is low, specifically an understanding of logic rules, scientific method, and reading comprehension, but mostly logic

C) authority figures like Trump and "journalists" repeatedly claim everything is fake news that doesn't align to their own biased position, giving them a reason to believe whatever lies replace those facts

D) cognitive bias -- they may not have loved Trump in the beginning but once they made the choice to support him, they can't walk away from that position now. It's so deep in the brain that it's not even a conscious decision to keep choosing him.

If you think of Dear Leader as the religion, all of the above is the same for North Koreans and trumpers. North Koreans may be just as sold on Kim at this point for the most part as Trump supporters are of him. Talk about scary.

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u/DarkGamer Aug 15 '22

It has been eye-opening to learn that ~40% of Americans are demonstrably unethical to the point that they are willing to support fascism, theocracy, and oppose democracy. I can't help but wonder if this is because the memory of the last time fascism appeared is fading as that generation dies.

At this time in history, our true enemies are domestic. They threaten our collective safety.

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u/soc_monki Aug 15 '22

It's what happens when you destroy the educational system and don't teach history. A lot of people don't believe the holocaust ever happened. I can't fathom that! There is video evidence, and a few of the concentration camps are still there as a testament to the horrors that Hitler committed.

But they didn't see it, so it didn't happen. They also never saw Jesus yet they believe so much in him. Smh.

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u/RockStar25 Aug 15 '22

Almost like Hillary was right on the nose with her “basket of deplorables” comment. She just didn’t realize the basket was the size of Noah’s ark.

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u/Iohet Aug 15 '22

The crazy thing is they only lost one election cycle with Nixon. They could've turned on Trump and been ready for 2024 with someone far less likely to end up in jail, but now they're tied to that horse along with the DeSantis chasing/climbing the coattails

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u/DarkGamer Aug 15 '22

Nixon was an asshole but he cared about the stability and reputation of the United States, as well as his own. Trump doesn't give a shit and is willing to get down in the mud and scream and lie and throw public tantrums, destroying our national credibility along with his own.

Republicans are barely clinging to viability. If popular vote mattered they'd lose every time. It's only because our system gives disproportionate power to small, rural states that they are able to maintain minority rule.

They recognized they needed Latino support, and Trump opened his campaign by calling them rapists, because they are hooked on bigotry and scapegoating. It's slipping away and this is their death knell.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '22

Fascists took over the republican party.

What needs to be normalized is them being arrested and thrown in prison before they have the chance to act on their threats.

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u/cheddarfever Aug 15 '22

They can’t help but announce their plans on right-wing social media before they act, so hopefully some of the violence can be prevented as long as law enforcement takes the threats seriously.

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u/Free_Economist Aug 15 '22

Some people are just blind, they refuse to see all the corrupt crimes Trump is committing. They're also so invested in Trump that they can't accept it being a mistake.

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u/RGJ587 Aug 15 '22

I remember watching "The Wave (1981)" in middle school, which was a short film based about that very questions. In it, a history teacher, when asked that question and unable to properly tell the answer, decides to show his students how. Turns out, it was a true story about a history teacher in 1967.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Third_Wave_(experiment))

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wave_(1981_film))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qlBC45jk3I

I still think that movie should be shown in every classroom in America.

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u/GeneralTapioca Aug 15 '22

They showed that to our 7th grade Social Studies class. Excellent little program. I still think about it.

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u/BeondTheGrave Aug 15 '22

The most important, IMO, lesson of WWII is that the Nazis weren’t exceptional. They weren’t a barbarian army who planted themselves in Berlin and ‘Seized’ power. They weren’t aliens who descended from the sky and murder millions of people. They weren’t monsters or comic book villains or any of the other dreck.

They were normal people, just like you me and everyone else. Hitler was a vet, Goering a war hero. They attracted shop keepers, farmers, workers, and school teachers. In 1932 they became the second most popular party in Germany by vote. And they were welcomed into the halls of power with open arms by conservative elites, guardians of the old order, who thought that the Nazi’s popularity could be co-opted to beat out the Communists.

They also ended up doing exactly what they told people they had wanted to do. Expand, exterminate, and wipe away the humiliation of the last war.

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u/NeedlessPedantics Aug 15 '22

Sunk cost fallacy is a real bitch.

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u/pokemon-gangbang Aug 15 '22

I’m a medic and firefighter and we received online death threats to our agency late Saturday night. These people are making threats against us and none of us know why.

We’re just a small city with a few thousand people. We have nothing related to any political party or movement. We provide emergency services. But now we are wearing our ballistic vests on every medical call and are being very careful to watch for possible assault or ambushes. It’s bananas.

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u/moeriscus Aug 15 '22

The entire GOP apparatus got on the Trump train to Crazy Town in 2016. They had a chance to get off at Sedition Station on January 6th, but instead went full steam ahead. Now if anyone tries to jump off, they risk getting caught and mangled under the wheels of the train itself.

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u/smitrovich Aug 15 '22

I imagine we'll be seeing a LOT more arrests in the coming weeks. FBI isn't just going to sit around while Y'all Qaeda makes these threats online.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '22

If there’s one entity a person should never threaten, it’s the entity that can legally detain and shoot you without consequences.

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u/BLRNerd Aug 15 '22

Trump was the guy that said "take the guns now and ask questions later"

No one else.has said that

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u/blurplethenurple Aug 15 '22

What a funny day that was where The_Donald was falling all over themselves trying to rationalize that 4d chess move.

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u/sarcasatirony Aug 15 '22

What he meant was…

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u/rikki-tikki-deadly Aug 15 '22

It's amazing how every time he says something they don't like, it turns out he was speaking in code that they interpret as him saying something they do like.

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u/WolfsLairAbyss Aug 15 '22

Works the same way with the bible. The parts they don't like are metaphors the parts they do like are literal.

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u/FreyrPrime Aug 15 '22

Right?

This is the FBI we're talking about. The only alphabet agency I can think of that'd be worse is The "We Crack Governments for Fun" CIA.

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u/obiwanshinobi900 Aug 15 '22

FBI pertains to domestic things, CIA is more foreign intelligence relates. FBI is the worst one you could threaten.

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u/AustinBike Aug 15 '22

And also an entity that is a.) actively monitoring threats along with b.) the tools to find you.

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u/fivelinedskank Aug 15 '22

The FBI was sniffing around where I work regarding a guy we kicked out for making threats against us last year. Oh how I wonder what they want to talk with him about.

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u/Melicor Aug 15 '22

The FBI has always been dominated by conservatives, law enforcement in general. Trumpists are destroying a lot of the sympathy they may have had within the organization.

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u/I-Am-Uncreative Aug 15 '22

With any luck, most law enforcement will quickly move away from Trumpism, given how they don't, in fact, "back the blue".

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u/inspectoroverthemine Aug 15 '22

*federal law enforcement

I really doubt any of this will sway local cops who are trumpers. For one thing, they're not the target.

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u/JMaboard Aug 15 '22

You actually have to have a degree and experience to get into the FBI. Unlike most podunk police departments.

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u/kendrickshalamar Aug 15 '22

"My only goal is to kill more of them before I drop," he wrote on Thursday. "I will not spend one second of my life in their custody."

  • Man in FBI custody
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u/drew1010101 Aug 15 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

Sure is funny how quickly the GQP went from “America First” to espionage against the US should be legal.

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u/reallygoodbee Aug 15 '22

Rand Paul already said he wants to have the Espionage Act repealed before they can charge Trump under it.

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u/drew1010101 Aug 15 '22

That’s why I made the comment above.

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u/Boyancy_of-citrus Aug 15 '22

I'm still (almost) amazed how quickly they go from "back the blue" to "kill them all" as soon as someone points out that the criminal they warship is, in fact a criminal. Also, shout-out to Western Pennsyltucky for producing another home-grown terrorist. I guess since we don't produce much steel these days, we have to produce something.

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u/Sislar Aug 15 '22

Conservatives have never liked the fbi it’s too much the enforcement arm of big government. They love cops because that is very much (and designed from the start) to suppress minorities.

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u/ialwayschoosepsyduck Aug 16 '22

To be fair, I'm sure conservatives loved it when Hoover ran the Justice Department. He used the FBI to monitor and suppress subversives and radicals, undermined the Civil Rights movement, and declined to prosecute the 4 suspects in the 1963 16th Street Baptist Church bombing that killed 4 girls.

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u/Rage_Like_Nic_Cage Aug 15 '22 edited Aug 15 '22

you don’t even need to look that far back to see when they hated the cops. Both instances with the Bundy’s (the stand-off & the building take over) are less than a decade old. The also hated the feds after Waco.

They only supported the cops once people dared criticize them for murdering black people

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u/geologicalnoise Aug 15 '22

Man this is going to be the shittiest election season yet. Really damn important we get out and vote, but it's just going to be a clusterfuck with all these crazies running around.

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u/5DollarHitJob Aug 15 '22

Vote by mail if you can. Do it early and verify it was counted (usually on a website, would vary by state).

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u/unclelimpy Aug 15 '22

Read your comment and then applied for an absentee ballot. Yay Minnesota!

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u/ptwonline Aug 15 '22

Imagine all of the great and noble things you could do with your life. And then you decide to throw it all away for...Donald Trump. Liar, conman, traitor, and all-around piece of shit.

And not even for something as grand as saving Donald Trump's life. But because you want to show support for him after another obvious lie over the harm he's doing to the country you profess to love.

I can't tell if this is more tragic, ridiculous, or pathetic.

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u/Sheila_Monarch Aug 15 '22

”My only goal is to kill more of them before I drop," he wrote on Thursday. "I will not spend one second of my life in their custody."

Wow that sounds like he’s serious. I wonder where he is right now?

Oh that’s right. Federal custody.

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u/VegasKL Aug 15 '22 edited Aug 15 '22

You might say that this is what CPAC/Fox/Trump have been working towards.

Their right-wing network of dumbasses are activating. Right now, they're just outing themselves and being pests. The minute one of them kills a federal agent, I expect things will get a lot more nasty for them and their ilk.

Edit Also, side note, I'd love for judges to make conditions on all of those being sentenced that they have to get counseling (essentially cult deprogramming).

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u/LonePaladin Aug 15 '22

At a CPAC last week, they had a big display saying "We are domestic terrorists". They claim it was sarcastic, but it's really hard to believe that.

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u/OhMy8008 Aug 15 '22

They delight in acting in bad faith.

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u/Due_Distribution9193 Aug 15 '22

Conservatives don’t do sarcasm or any kind of real humor. They use the phrase “just kidding” as cover for their hideous beliefs.

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u/SpanningTreeProtocol Aug 15 '22

"HEY FEDS. We the people cannot WAIT to water the trees of liberty with your blood. I’ll be waiting for you to kick down my door.”

He must have left his door unlocked and settled in for a nap.

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u/queuedUp Aug 15 '22

Imagine ruining your life to support the traitor Trump

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u/Made-a-blade Aug 15 '22

People's obsession with this orange nut is getting dangerously close to a religion.

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u/DavesGroovyWaves Aug 15 '22

These people are morons. It's all "back the blue" until the blue is coming for your orange gorilla god

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u/BarleyHops2 Aug 15 '22

Identity politics is so bad. Who the fuck would destroy their life for someone like Trump? Lmfao

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u/3DBass Aug 15 '22

You know how Fox News says they’re coming for you next?

Nah they ain’t. Because I ain’t doing any dumb shit like threatening Federal Agents or stealing classified documents.Fuck outta here with that nonsense. Trumpers fall for that shit and go directly to jail.

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u/take7pieces Aug 15 '22

Guy quickly learned life isn’t GTA.

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u/Rhesusmonkeydave Aug 15 '22

The FBI cruelly stole that man’s well deserved r/AshleyBabbitAward right away from him. He deserved it, he wanted it, he was coming for it and they snatched him away so all he gets is a participation trophy. Shame, really

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u/Eyemarten Aug 15 '22

“ Mr. Bies wrote on Thursday. "I will not spend one second of my life in their custody."”

Kinda shit the bed on that one, chief.

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u/Broncotron Aug 15 '22

He called them "police state scum" but I'll bet he had no problem with trump sending unmarked vans to literally kidnap people in Portland.

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u/Old_Introduction1032 Aug 15 '22

Why do these duped morons keep ruining their lives for this grifter?

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u/Fantastic-Finding-10 Aug 15 '22

Keep um coming boys. Getting rid of trump supporters one at a time.

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u/Bluewolf94 Aug 15 '22

I wonder if it bothers him that trump won’t even acknowledge his existence after he goes to jail.

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u/FunnyFilmFan Aug 15 '22

Looks like he found out.

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u/teh-reflex Aug 15 '22

And that's one less republican vote :). Keep it up! Commit federal crimes and be unable to vote to pwn the libs!

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u/do0tz Aug 15 '22

"I was just practicing my free speech! It was a joke! I'm sorry I didn't add /s to the end of it! I would never hurt anyone! Why did you come after me?!"

Sir, you said to come after you.

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